Comments on: Pathetic Post of the Day, calling PPC buying publishers con artists http://www.webpublishingblog.com/pathetic-post-of-the-day-calling-ppc-buying-publishers-con-artists.htm Internet publishing, a multidisciplinary approach. Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:43:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: » Google Domain Parking - Search or Content? - Web Publishing Blog http://www.webpublishingblog.com/pathetic-post-of-the-day-calling-ppc-buying-publishers-con-artists.htm#comment-3631 » Google Domain Parking - Search or Content? - Web Publishing Blog Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:48:42 +0000 http://www.webpublishingblog.com/pathetic-post-of-the-day-calling-ppc-buying-publishers-con-artists.htm#comment-3631 [...] As you may or may not know, Google offers a domain parking service for high-traffic domain investors. As an Adwords advertiser a lot of traffic comes from these sites. While some people consider a web site with no content but ads a con or scam, I have found domain traffic to work modestly well. [...] […] As you may or may not know, Google offers a domain parking service for high-traffic domain investors. As an Adwords advertiser a lot of traffic comes from these sites. While some people consider a web site with no content but ads a con or scam, I have found domain traffic to work modestly well. […]

]]> By: J-P http://www.webpublishingblog.com/pathetic-post-of-the-day-calling-ppc-buying-publishers-con-artists.htm#comment-3301 J-P Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:49:35 +0000 http://www.webpublishingblog.com/pathetic-post-of-the-day-calling-ppc-buying-publishers-con-artists.htm#comment-3301 Andrew: This is the first time I stumbled upon your site, and I'd like to say that I'm finding your site very interesting. I wanted to point out, however, that I believe the article you referenced refers to bogus search-engine-like sites whose "search results" and links are all just pay-per-click advertisements. The issue behind this type of site goes much deeper and the author, Brian White, fails to explain why these sites could be classified as criminals. Although I agree that the word criminal is harsh, their tactics are less than acceptable and very much resemble those of scams. Most of these sites that I described above conduct Domain Kiting. Nobody explains what domain kiting is better GoDaddy founder, Bob Parsons, on his blog. I strongly encourage you to read his entire post at: http://www.bobparsons.com/MayKiting.html The main problem I see with these sites is that they do not provide anything beneficial to the internet and the online community. They also register domains that could otherwise be used for beneficial use or legitimate business purposes. I can't tell you how many times I've tried to register a domain just to find out that it was already registered, then visit the site and find a bogus search-engine-like site with PPC ads plastered all over it. You know most of them don't even pay for these domains! Andrew:
This is the first time I stumbled upon your site, and I’d like to say that I’m finding your site very interesting. I wanted to point out, however, that I believe the article you referenced refers to bogus search-engine-like sites whose “search results” and links are all just pay-per-click advertisements. The issue behind this type of site goes much deeper and the author, Brian White, fails to explain why these sites could be classified as criminals. Although I agree that the word criminal is harsh, their tactics are less than acceptable and very much resemble those of scams.

Most of these sites that I described above conduct Domain Kiting. Nobody explains what domain kiting is better GoDaddy founder, Bob Parsons, on his blog. I strongly encourage you to read his entire post at: http://www.bobparsons.com/MayKiting.html

The main problem I see with these sites is that they do not provide anything beneficial to the internet and the online community. They also register domains that could otherwise be used for beneficial use or legitimate business purposes. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to register a domain just to find out that it was already registered, then visit the site and find a bogus search-engine-like site with PPC ads plastered all over it. You know most of them don’t even pay for these domains!

]]> By: Andrew http://www.webpublishingblog.com/pathetic-post-of-the-day-calling-ppc-buying-publishers-con-artists.htm#comment-2202 Andrew Thu, 13 Jul 2006 16:45:08 +0000 http://www.webpublishingblog.com/pathetic-post-of-the-day-calling-ppc-buying-publishers-con-artists.htm#comment-2202 Chromate - its efficiency because you are only doing it if it turns a profit. The reason why Shoemoney and other affiliates buying PPC ads make so much money is because these companies haven't yet figured out how to do exactly what they are doing. The bottom line is advertisers want pageviews and affiliate companies want sales. If Google really thought this was wrong why wouldn't they just ban it? Thats what I want to know. Chromate - its efficiency because you are only doing it if it turns a profit. The reason why Shoemoney and other affiliates buying PPC ads make so much money is because these companies haven’t yet figured out how to do exactly what they are doing. The bottom line is advertisers want pageviews and affiliate companies want sales.

If Google really thought this was wrong why wouldn’t they just ban it? Thats what I want to know.

]]> By: Chromate http://www.webpublishingblog.com/pathetic-post-of-the-day-calling-ppc-buying-publishers-con-artists.htm#comment-2199 Chromate Thu, 13 Jul 2006 14:52:39 +0000 http://www.webpublishingblog.com/pathetic-post-of-the-day-calling-ppc-buying-publishers-con-artists.htm#comment-2199 He's really talking about bridging pages, isn't he? Pages that offer no useful content, with the sole purpose of sending the user on to another site as quickly as possible. After feeding them up with some tasty affiliate cookie, of course ;) Not sure why he's moaning about this now as it used to be much more of a problem. Google's been clamping down on this for a while now - and rightly so. Gotta disagree with you on one point though Andrew, if you're buying traffic purely to send it on someplace else without giving the page some other value, then that's not efficiency. That's inefficiency. It just adds another needless step for the user. However pages that offer some extra value to the user, like a comparison table or something, that's a completely different matter. Nothing wrong with those at all. Anyway... Even if the PPC'er is using bridging pages, calling them con artists, fraudsters and criminals is just laughable. Who exactly are they conning or defrauding? So, to Brian White, I'm genuinely interested in how you came to this seemingly ridiculous conclusion? He’s really talking about bridging pages, isn’t he? Pages that offer no useful content, with the sole purpose of sending the user on to another site as quickly as possible. After feeding them up with some tasty affiliate cookie, of course ;)

Not sure why he’s moaning about this now as it used to be much more of a problem. Google’s been clamping down on this for a while now - and rightly so.

Gotta disagree with you on one point though Andrew, if you’re buying traffic purely to send it on someplace else without giving the page some other value, then that’s not efficiency. That’s inefficiency. It just adds another needless step for the user.

However pages that offer some extra value to the user, like a comparison table or something, that’s a completely different matter. Nothing wrong with those at all.

Anyway… Even if the PPC’er is using bridging pages, calling them con artists, fraudsters and criminals is just laughable. Who exactly are they conning or defrauding? So, to Brian White, I’m genuinely interested in how you came to this seemingly ridiculous conclusion?

]]> By: Charlie March http://www.webpublishingblog.com/pathetic-post-of-the-day-calling-ppc-buying-publishers-con-artists.htm#comment-2197 Charlie March Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:10:49 +0000 http://www.webpublishingblog.com/pathetic-post-of-the-day-calling-ppc-buying-publishers-con-artists.htm#comment-2197 But Google do see it as a problem, as they are implementing their landing page quality control and as a result pushing up the price of obtaining those initial clicks. Google are looking to protect their income base by enforcing a degree of quality control. What this should lead to is an improvement of the landing pages on an improve or die type basis, which should be a good outcome for those looking for good quality traffic from Google and for surfers looking for quality results. However I agree that "fraudsters and criminals" is a little strong. But Google do see it as a problem, as they are implementing their landing page quality control and as a result pushing up the price of obtaining those initial clicks. Google are looking to protect their income base by enforcing a degree of quality control.

What this should lead to is an improvement of the landing pages on an improve or die type basis, which should be a good outcome for those looking for good quality traffic from Google and for surfers looking for quality results.

However I agree that “fraudsters and criminals” is a little strong.

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